FULL INTERVIEW - a Leave voting teacher talks to Labour Leave

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    Labour Leave interviews Gareth Sturdy, a Leave voting teacher and Spiked contributor, about the treatment of Leavers by other teachers, the bullying and harassment, whether 16 year olds should have the vote, and whether our young people are getting unbiased information on Brexit from their teachers.

Michelle Churchland
Michelle Churchland

What a brave and broad minded teacher. I worry for our kids at the thought of how narrow-minded and authoritarian some of these teachers seem to be. The Brexit debate was deliberately framed as an argument around immigration by the establishment to distract attention away from what the EU really is and how it's pro-austerity and pro-privatisation agenda and policies have driven much of the very poverty effecting pupils in the classrooms,which these teachers will then profess to oppose. It drives me mad with frustration to see so many people who are ignorant of the actual facts around EU legislation and it's policies, claiming that the people who are only too aware of the damage those policies have caused, are the ignorant ones!

Hace 2 meses
Steve Bee
Steve Bee

I paused his video to add a pink Floyd line "hey teacher leave these kids alone"

Hace 3 meses
Francis Lee
Francis Lee

What can be said about teachers and teaching is pretty much common fare among the urban middle-classes in general. The professional and business classes are so far dumbed-down that they cannot muster let alone defend any complex political or social issue, except of course Transgender toilet rights. Trahison de clercs is about right.

Hace 3 meses
step chicken
step chicken

It's like living through a real-life, "The Emperor's New Clothes." The majority (in this case, the vociferous minority) just don't see it.

Hace 5 meses
Frank Slater
Frank Slater

I can certainly say on an anecdotal level that many of my teachers were openly biased in favour of a kind of globalist censorious liberalism which has a kind of hierarchy of group identities within it. I was wondering whether it is legal for a child to record his teacher. Does anybody know? I remember the BBC doing secret recordings of bigoted Imam's - could the same thing be done in history and pshe lessons?

Hace 6 meses
Raf The Jaf
Raf The Jaf

I am finding myself moving towards Lexit position and I agree with a lot of what this guy says. However I don't agree with him on the issue of the increase in racist attacks. Of course not all people who voted leave are racists but on the other hand ignorant racist people have seen Brexit as a green light and it has emboldened them. Hopefully this will be a temporary reality but to deny it has occurred tells us more about this speaker's white male position than what is happening on the streets. He is a good person but he simply doesn't have to face that issue in his daily life.

Hace 6 meses
Marion Reynolds
Marion Reynolds

Well done Gareth - listen to George Galloway’s weekly Talk Radio and you’ll find plenty of friends. - marion

Hace 8 meses
Patrick Holt
Patrick Holt

It's of a piece with the snobbery that dominated the Remain camp throughout the campaign, including in the mainstream media which is recognized to be a socially exclusive, privileged group-thinking out of touch bubble, which is why it reports Corbyn so endemically unfairly. Thomas Frank makes a very powerful case in _Listen Liberal_ for neoliberalism and anti-socialism being driven, in allegedly left of centre parties like the Democrats, New Labour, France's PS, Germany's SPD and so on, by a distinct and militant, but unacknowledged class interest antagonistic to the working class, which he calls the professional class. That professional class class interest, class prejudices and intra-class solidarity is what I see in Remainism, Blairism, the ludicrous levels of hostility to Corbynism in the media, and I would guess what Mr. Sturdy reports among the teaching profession, and of course throughout the unelected structures of the EU, especially the EU commission but also its other bureaucracies. Snobbery, a sense of entitlement based on academic achievement, and a disinterest in poverty reduction or the brute facts of extreme inequality arising from the belief in meritocracy. And the logic of belief in a hierarchy of rewards based on ability and educational attainment doesn't only mandate opposition to egalitarianism and working class power, because why should people who didn't work as hard at school and whose work doesn't require an expert qualification be decently paid, but it also mandates political oligarchy and contempt for democracy, because if experts always know better and are in any case better people, then they should axiomatically rule and the people should be allowed to make few or ideally no decisions for themselves, first in economic policy, then eventually in every policy. And that is exactly how the EU behaves, in relation to elections and referenda in member states: policy may not be changed as a result, and if the country in question gets uppity, it must be overruled and crushed, as was Greece, and as the Remainiacs want Britain, and therewith the British working class and the socialist left, to be crushed.

Hace 9 meses
Celestial Teapot
Celestial Teapot

I strongly suspect that the ageism which is rife within the teaching profession is partly responsible for most teachers being too young to have any idea about the left argument for Brexit. Education is contaminated with neoliberalism, and most teachers are unaware of it because they have been trained as opposed to being educated to think critically.

Hace 11 meses
cirian75
cirian75

The above gentleman only appears to be aware on 2 of the 3 bodies that make up the EU, the EU Commission (civil service) and The democratically elected by us EU parliament, he does not seem to know about the European Council that is made of the elected leaders of the 28 EU countries. The European Council only lets the EU commission draft laws it was unanimously agreed in advance, if just one EU country PM's/President says no, that's the end of looking at that law. Then if they say yes, then our own relevant minsters, say its a health law, all 28 health ministers, that will Jeremy hunt and his 27 counterparts look at a new proposed health law will debate what they want it to do, and then the proposed laws are sent to be drafted by the EU Commission into legal workable draft laws. Note, this means the EU Commission reports to European Council, our elected heads of state. Then the EU Commission send the draft laws to democratically elected by us EU parliament to be voted, Yes/No/Sent back with suggested amendments, so this is all done with, all with the pre approval the European Council who are the 28 democratically leaders and our ministers of the EU countries. So Supreme authority = European Council 28 democratically leaders of the EU countries, with the use of our own relevant minsters for the relevant draft laws. Civil service = EU commission, works out the kinks, makes them workable and legally sound. Final approval = EU parliament (MEP's democratically elected by us, the citizens of the EU.

Hace un año
blahdelablah
blahdelablah

> "EU Commission (civil service)" That's a common misconception. The EU Commission isn't the EU's civil service, though the EU's civil servants do work for the Commission. The Commission's role, other than being the only group with the power to draft new policies, is to provide direction for the day-to-day running of the EU. Consider for a second who makes up the European Council and the Council of the European Union (despite their similar names, they are two separate entities). As you suggest, they're comprised of members of parliament from the member states. Do you accept that being an MP for a country is already a full time job? If so, what do you think happens in the EU when these groups are not set to convene? Furthermore, what do you think happens if the EU Commission doesn't get its way (i.e. if one of their proposals are rejected)? I would suggest to you that they can keep submitting similar policies with minor adjustments until they get their way. Lastly, the European Council, Council of the European Union and European Parliament cannot draft new policies, and the EU Commission is under no obligation to listen to them. I can link you to the legal documents that describe this arrangement if you wish.

Hace 8 meses
Left of Centre Brexit
Left of Centre Brexit

'Although the European Council has no direct legislative power, under the "emergency brake" procedure, a state outvoted in the Council of Ministers may refer contentious legislation to the European Council. However, the state may still be outvoted in the European Council.'

Hace 11 meses
Left of Centre Brexit
Left of Centre Brexit

In which case why do we need the Commission at all? Why can't that Commission be a cabinet made up with elected MEPs? Also, if the Parliament rejects something it can be sent back to them again. How can that democratic?

Hace 11 meses
cirian75
cirian75

Byron Leopold as if you knew the council existed 2 hours ago? Or maybe you did, and chose not tell people about it

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Chris Lovett
Chris Lovett

ONE reason to leave the the EU please. Just ON. Go on.

Hace un año
Kane Shaw
Kane Shaw

The Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union contains more restrictive rules on state aid than does trading on WTO rules. Consequently, if you are serious about using state power to drastically restructure our currently fucked economy that will necessitate what has been termed - rather stupidly - as a hard Brexit. Does that answer your question?

Hace 5 meses
P Carr
P Carr

@Celestial Teapot Brilliant

Hace 8 meses
Rich William
Rich William

The E.U. arrest warrant.

Hace 9 meses
Celestial Teapot
Celestial Teapot

I suggest you read, Tarique Ali, Steve Kean, John Pilger, Dennis Skinner, Tony Benn, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Michael Foot, George Galloway. Kate Hoey, or Peter Stringer,. Not widely known for their stupidity or racism.

Hace 11 meses
Left of Centre Brexit
Left of Centre Brexit

That's funny, Cirian, he's the one that called Alex a 'total thicko' and an 'ignoramus'. Where's Chris' arguments? Oh wait, a remainer, he doesn't need one....

Hace 11 meses
Chris Lovett
Chris Lovett

Teachers who voted to leave? Why? They must be total thickos. As are you, you ignoramus.

Hace un año
P Carr
P Carr

Do you have any mirrors in your house? Yes, try giving them a wash ya eejit

Hace 8 meses
Rich William
Rich William

Yes, you'll find that a lot of physicists are thick - oh, hang on.

Hace 9 meses
Left of Centre Brexit
Left of Centre Brexit

Because they had a right to do so, and they considered it the correct thing to go for. So why shouldn't we leave, Chris?

Hace 11 meses
Alex Napier Holland
Alex Napier Holland

All you have demonstrated is that you have poor social skills. Are you surprised you failed to convince more people to vote Remain?

Hace un año
Chris Lovett
Chris Lovett

Was or is there a single argument in favour of leaving the EU there? I didn't see or hear it. Just a load of waffle. Gammon on the hoof.

Hace un año
P Carr
P Carr

he was talking about the effect of the debate on his profession, not trying to persuade anyone, get it? And your reaction was a perfect example of what he was talking about. And aye, there's plenty good arguments for leaving but you have to find them and think about them, they're not going to find you. Here's more waffle for ya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnrWbo6uJA&t=735s

Hace 8 meses
Patrick Holt
Patrick Holt

You are demonstrating cognitive bias. Left arguments exist, but you've been screening them out of your notice and memory. Watch any of the interviews with or speeches by Costas Lapavitsas, or read his book. Here is a good starting point: https://www.counterfire.org/articles/opinion/20006-corbyn-socialist-policies-eu-brexit There is also loads on the Morning Star and Jacobin Magazine websites and FB pages.

Hace 9 meses
Alex Napier Holland
Alex Napier Holland

Yes. Clearly you have a very limited social circle.

Hace un año
Cong T
Cong T

Well done for standing up for your principles. The teaching profession has been a problem for many years after the Frankfurt School got into the universities after the war.

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Stuart Wray
Stuart Wray

meecha59 In Postmodernism's rejection of Teleological concepts and meta-narratives it fundamentally departs from class based activity and analysis. In this sense it reflects the Left's slide into 'third way' (Clinton and Blair) politics and a disastrous accomodation to the ideology of Neoliberalism.

Hace 7 meses
Anthony Matthews
Anthony Matthews

@Celestial Teapot Indeed, and so they should be. It's frustrating that so many think we can change it.

Hace 9 meses
Celestial Teapot
Celestial Teapot

meecha59 Postmodernism is not an attack on metaphysics, if anything, it's the opposite, that's why it's disliked by many Marxists.

Hace 9 meses
Celestial Teapot
Celestial Teapot

Anthony Matthews The Left historically have aways been against the neoliberal capitalist EU

Hace 9 meses
Anthony Matthews
Anthony Matthews

Cong T. Sounds like an axe being ground to me. There is actually a very strong left-wing argument for leaving the EU.

Hace 9 meses
Christopher Phillips
Christopher Phillips

This is wonderful. Articulate expresses precisely my experience (however not in the teaching profession) and my reasoning to vote to leave. The intolerance and prejudice is really quite staggering.

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